Message 6064 of 6064
From: kabir_75901
Date: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Michael Martin Western Sat Guru] NOBY
NOBY:
> Mhh, MM,
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> let's play again, dear MM, ok?
MM:
This is a warning. I'm tired of your attitude. I'm tired of your advertising. I've been
patient, but now I'm running out of patience. Either you get it together, or I will be forced to delete
you from the Group. We are not here to have "fun," with arguments.
We are sincere seekers. Do you understand that simple truth? If you want to think you're
greater, that's fine. They know about
your Group, now, but I don't think more repetitions of it will help.
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MM:
I'm not the only member of the Group, as you've noticed, also. I'm
here to protect this Group from unscrupulous advertisers, and people
who want to undermine their faith, or otherwise interfere in their
search for truth. Do you understand that?
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MM:
Read what I just wrote above.
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MM:
Yes, we are conditioned by perhaps millions of past lives. We have been deceived into thinking that this illusion is real.
Noby:
> What are ''souls''? ...
MM:
A soul is a drop of spirituality. It was created by God. It has taken the company of mind and
body. Now, it does not know its own identity. Instead, it thinks it is mind and
body. By following a
Sat Guru, True Master, we can cast off the covering of mind and body. Then we can know the
soul, which shines with the light of 12 suns, at the level of the third stage of
consciousness. At the fifth stage the soul merges into the Creator. All souls become one
there.
Noby:
...
> you incorporate those magnifique manifestation like ''Shabd, Kalma,
Sultan-ul-Azkar, Nam, Holy Spirit, '' and therefore you bless yourself with the title
MM:
It is the creative power, and the real form of the Master, and of God (as a manifested power).
I didn't create this Group, with that title. Someone else did. I
just left the title as it was.
Noby:
> MichaelMartinWesternSatGuru? Or did you got this title from your teacher? As
heritage? My God!° :-)
MM:
I'm doing this duty, as a teacher, under order of Anami Purush Radha Soami, i.e. nameless Lord of the
soul. All Guruavatars do what the
Lord wants done.
Noby:
> Some spirit to understand your letter would be realy more than enough for a simple man
like me, but ''Holy Spirit'', what is that?
MM:
It is difficult to describe it. It is the Creative Power, and
manifests as sound and light within us. If we follow it, it takes us to our True
Home, known as Sach Khand.
Noby:
> Never had any other spirit but mine, and when this ''holy feelings'' started as
disease always friends of mine helped to hammer my stubborn head back, to come back on
earth!
MM:
Are you saying that everybody is your Guru? That might be true. Faqir Chand said, but with this
qualifier, the Sat Guru can take us to our True Home. We have to use a little
discernment, otherwise we will never realize God.
Noby:
Don't you have friends like this? Only followers?
MM:
I consider a friend to be one, who helps one, not who is an agent of Satan.
Noby:
> Please can you explain? Or better, can you join n0by@yahoogroups.com
- maybe you can sell your spirits their as Holy
too, to convince ordinary people? Please advice, ok?
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MM:
If they're all like you, I would think they might not be ready for
the truth. We have to be serious, not a bunch of jokers.
Noby:
> Surely, strong, strange sage saints will follow the pious prayers of and join people and places
cursed with plagues, you blame so true, so true, sobsobsob - illusionionst like you and me - sorry
me, not you, got it right?
MM:
My duty is to remove the illusions, or to teach how to remove them.
Noby:
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> Are you one of these shepherds? And nearly four-houndred people enjoy as sleeping sheep your
magnifique manifestation?
MM:
Sleeping sheep? Those who aren't following a Master, are more likely
to be sleeping and deceived.
> your
> n0by
> with love
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MM:
Like I said, get it together. You've done enough advertising now.
Michael
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